Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Interview
This was a special interview for me. This was a music fan meeting his favorite artist. I was excited and energized – this was one of those nights that made The Kollection worth every minute. My only regret was that we interviewed them at 1:30 in the morning before they headed to their next tour stop, and I didn’t quite feel like I had time to ask everything I wanted. Let’s shoot for an interview round two in a couple years and see what’s changed.
I love Macklemore, I love Ryan Lewis, and ever since these guys started working together the hip hop world hasn’t quite been the same. Their music is beautiful, passionate, meaningful, and real. These guys are the definition of art meets meaning. Below is an audio recorded interview of Macklemore and Ryan Lewis. It is meant to be read as a conversation, I have made minor edits to improve the flow of the conversation.
It seems like a while ago, a few years ago maybe, the barrier to entry for what you guys are doing in hip hop was a lot higher. Nowadays anyone with a computer and a mic can create music, get on a blog, and on it goes. Do you care? Does this make you mad?
Macklemore: I think at one point the over saturation bothered me, but it bothered me for the wrong reasons. It bothered me because I felt like I wasn’t getting the attention I deserved. And when you’re that kind of bitter, resentful artist that isn’t getting recognized it’s easy to point your finger at other people that are making music and think that it’s their fault.
Ya know, a couple years later do I care? No, I think it’s great that people are making art. There’s always gonna be people that like, ya know, you listen to their music and think that they might be getting too much credit and ego comes into play, but I think overall if people are recording and people have a computer and have access to making art there’s nothing wrong with that. I think that with Myspace, that was kind of the beginning of the over saturation where people had a player and they could upload it and immediately get feedback, like around 2003, 2004. That was the first that I saw it.
But if the internet wasn’t there I wouldn’t be [here] tonight, and I was and am that same kid with access to a computer who happens makes music, and I love it. And hopefully those people do it because they love it and are progressives.
You’re a rapper. But I hope you realize that you’re a different kind of rapper, everyone else knows that you’re a different kind of rapper. You have a different message, a different style, a different tone – everything about it is unique and that’s why people love you.
Do you get a lot of people that treat you differently, with your message, do you people come to you with a different attitude or a different respect?
Macklemore: I think that in general, the message that’s in our music really resonates with the fans on a personal level and connects with them in a way that is personal. Like, they feel like a part of the music, it’s not just something that’s intangible or far away in the distance. It’s something that’s personal, that’s up close, it’s familiar – it relates on a human level.
Because of that, we have a very strong fan base that is a part of our music and is a part of our movement. It’s hard for me to compare it to other people, because I think that everybody thinks they have the best fan base in the world, and that they have the best fans. But the energy that we’ve experienced at these shows, for this tour in particular, has completely surpassed any expectations that I’ve had. Every single venue has just been incredible in terms of crowd participation and what people say after the show.
I mean, even if a show isn’t the hypest show – you know, like insane energy that a lot of these are – just talking to the people at the merch table and hearing their stories and hearing how they’ve been affected by the music is really inspiring and motivating.
So you did the And We Danced video recently. Are you going through some of your older works now, are you going to get back and do videos for them? I Said Hey and Love Song are a couple of my favorites.
Macklemore: Not videos. With And We Danced we wanted to do that video for a long time. We were very cautious to not have that hit the internet before people knew who we were, and not be know as the And We Danced dude – didn’t want that. So you know we did five videos this year, very different videos, very different songs for each video and you know, we wanted to do a video for And We Danced but it was all about timing. We had a window where we wanted to do a video and we said we think it’s the right time to do it.
Last year you were in Austin, and you kind of mentioned it in your show, but it was a different feel. How does it feel to come back one year later and just – everyone knows your words, everyone’s screaming out Wings
Ryan Lewis: I mean first off, to drive into Austin and have it not be South by Southwest was exciting. Just to see the awesomeness of this incredible city, whether there’s a festival going on or not. But then you know, to play here at Emos and not be playing eight other shows in that 48 hour period, and be able to play a longer set, and the set that you planned and you can invest all your energy into that set…it’s awesome. But to be here, and to sell it out and to headline and do the set that we planned was special. I’d put Austin up there with New York and LA and cities that are so vital to music, it was just a great experience.
Tell us about what you’re working on in 2012.
Ryan Lewis: We’re working on an LP, full length, that will come out in the Spring. That’s what we’re working hard towards – shooting for the spring – we’ve been working on it with the opportunities we’ve had while touring and doing other stuff, and I think January through March we’re going to go as hard as we can to make it happen. I think that, you know, some of the songs we’ve put out will make their way on there, but I think a lot of it is new stuff. I think it’s going to be really good, I’m excited for it.
Do you guys dislike blogs that post the music you’re selling up for free?
Macklemore: Ya know…no. It’s the internet. I’ll take exposure any day over, you know, dollars. That’s just where we’re at. And it’s just great if it’s a website that has traffic that has an avid fanbase that is constantly checking on it and we’re able to get new unique fans from it – that’s much better than the money that translates. Because you know, hopefully those people are the ones occupying these venues and coming to these shows in New York and making these shows sold out. Yeah, it doesn’t really bother me. I do think about it, I do see it, but it doesnt…
Ryan Lewis: I grew up in that generation that downloaded music, and to think that music is something that you can sell as a product, at this point between streaming websites and just how easy it is, is a dumb thought. It doesn’t bother me…it’s doesn’t. I think what you can make off of music to recycle back into your craft and keep going is great, but at the same time I think you gotta work hard and there’s a variety of ways you can keep your machine moving.
Macklemore: I mean it’s out there. If you wanna go to Pirate Bay you can find every song I’ve ever put out. I really don’t have a problem with it. You know, I do well on iTunes. Like I said, I’d rather have a bunch of new people downloading the entire collection and coming to the shows and singing word for word rather than trying to make extra money. It just doesn’t matter.
Last words for Kollection fans around the world?
Ryan Lewis: Thank you for your support – The Kollection is awesome! We hope to see you at shows in the future!
Macklemore: I second that. I will add…you can beat around the bush, as long as you want, but until you get in you’re never going to come…[laughs all around]
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Awesome interview, love these guys. Macklemore one of the greatest lyricists of our time teamed up with Ryan Lewis, one of the dopest producers out there. So sick, love the vibe these guys bring to music. Bringing back the love and the passion, can’t wait to see them in MN in a week.